11/24 AEW DYNAMITE TV RESULTS: Keller’s detailed record and research of Punk vs. Kingston, Danielson vs. Cabana, Cody & Pac & Lucha Bros. vs. FTR & Andrade & Black

NOVEMBER 24, 2021

Commentators: Jim Ross, Tony Schiavone, Excalibur

Ring Announcer: Justin Roberts


-The Dynamite opening theme aired.

-Jim Ross offered the display as C.M. Punk’s front kicked off the display. As Excalibur used to be hyping upcoming fits and Punk stepped into the hoop, MJF interrupted. Excalibur mentioned he used to be “as standard, dripping with smarm – and different physically fluids.” Enthusiasts loudly and forcefully chanted “C.M. Punk!” MJF mentioned, “It doesn’t really feel so just right getting interrupted, does it Punky Brewster?” Enthusiasts chanted “close the f— up!” at MJF. MJF mentioned he harm his emotions ultimate week by means of turning down his handshake. “It used to be virtually as unhealthy because the time you surrender and took your ball house like a little bit whinge.” He mentioned everyone cherished the pipe bomb. “My god, so just right, mythical!” he mentioned. He mentioned the pipe bomb is his very best second, however there’s an issue. He mentioned each MJF second is the most efficient MJF second. “In contrast to you, I’m no longer a one-trick pony,” he mentioned. He mentioned he does recognize him and that he’s instantly edge. “Granted, by no means in my wildest goals may I’ve most likely imagined a instantly edge guy may glance such a lot like a meth addict.” Punk nodded and sighed “k.” He mentioned if he had Punk’s face, he’d need to down seven photographs of whiskey to appear himself within the reflect.

He mentioned other folks requested Punk who he sought after to strive against in AEW, and Punk discussed everybody however him. He mentioned he can fake it’s as a result of he wasn’t , “however in truth, it’s since you didn’t need none.” He mentioned at the stick his whole occupation, Punk used to be giant fish dealing with a small minnow. He mentioned he’s about to verbally end him quicker than his UFC occupation. Punk hard-blinked at him along with his hands crossed as he leaned within the nook. Enthusiasts chanted, “C.M. Punk!” MJF mentioned he heard them the primary time.

MJF mentioned he can drop lovely little pipe bombs, however he’s MJF and he drops nukes. Punk walked over and grabbed a mic. Enthusiasts cheered and chanted his identify once more. Punk mentioned, “I’m so dissatisfied in you.” He mentioned he sought after to thank him for ultimate week. He mentioned he offered himself to him, which is what a correct younger guy used to be meant to do to his elders. He mentioned he didn’t know his first identify used to be Maxwell; he mentioned he concept MJF stood for “My Jealous Fan.” He mentioned when he did media interviews, he by no means introduced up his identify as a result of that used to be by means of design. He mentioned he didn’t wish to feed his rotten little ego. He mentioned he’s in his head, most likely as a result of there’s a poster of him on his wall.

Punk mentioned he heard about “the good MJF” and ultimate week he close him up with out announcing a phrase. He mentioned he had an entire week to consider zingers and he got here out with the bottom putting fruit. Punk instructed lovers that MJF thinks he’s modern to the wrestling trade “when in truth, he’s only a much less well-known Miz.” Enthusiasts roared. MJF walked towards Punk, then instructed everybody to calm down. He mentioned that used to be actually forged and inventive stuff. “It used to be virtually what I sought after,” MJF mentioned. “That word ‘virtually what I sought after’ more or less completely encapsulates all your run right here to this point, don’t you suppose?” He mentioned it’s true that nostalgia is a drug that reasons us to misconstrue our reminiscences. “You, my buddy, are not more than nostalgia,” he mentioned. He mentioned within the ring and at the mic, no person may contact him. “You have been the most efficient, or so I assumed, Chicago,” he mentioned. “As a result of ever since your almighty go back, you’ve struggled to overcome the very best of festival and say moderately actually anything else of intrigue.” He then gagged and mentioned his breath smells like shit. He accused him of kissing ass routinely all over.

MJF mocked Punk giving generic interviews naming town and opponent in a scripted sounding model. He mentioned his hair goes grey and if someone wishes to fall asleep, it’s him. MJF mentioned it’s not C.M. Punk, he’s now P.G. Punk. He requested what came about to the person he grew up staring at. “What came about to the renegade, the ass-kicker, the outsider. It’s possible you’ll as smartly be out right here preaching hustle, loyalty, and recognize.” Punk stared at MJF, hands crossed. MJF mentioned, “Right here’s the issue, P.G. I will see you; hell, I will see thru you, pal.” He mentioned Punk mentioned he got here again for younger ability, but additionally mentioned he wouldn’t come again for not up to a ship load of cash. He mentioned he complained from his sofa for seven years as a substitute of fixing the wrestling trade. He mentioned he had one excuse after any other. He requested if it used to be as a result of he used to be too busy making comedian books no person learn and films no person noticed, or used to be it as a result of he used to be terrified that he couldn’t grasp anymore or perhaps scared he by no means may grasp within the first position.

“I’m right here to inform, you must be scared, guy,” MJF mentioned. “Within the different corporate, other folks checked out you prefer a cult hero as a result of they felt you have been held down, you’ll have been applied and showcased as the number 1 man. And right here you’re, you will have the the entire alternative to turn out the folks proper, however are you able to?” He requested the lovers, “Do you other folks suppose C.M. Punk can do it?” Enthusiasts cheered. He mentioned they really feel it now, however will they really feel it in a month or a 12 months.

He mentioned he is aware of why Punk doesn’t like him. He mentioned it’s as a result of he represents the whole thing about this trade he hates. He mentioned he used to be born for this. He mentioned he’s each promoter’s, analyst’s, and pundit’s rainy dream “when you, alternatively have been a scrawny misfit from the dumpiest a part of the Midwest referred to as Chicago.” He mentioned Punk needed to paintings not easy, however what eats him up insider is that finally of his not easy paintings and sacrifice, he is aware of it and the folks comprehend it, he’s been not anything greater than 2nd very best. He mentioned it used to be the You Can’t See Me Guy and the King the Kings, he used to be by no means as much as their stage. He mentioned the similar applies to him. He mentioned he’s higher than Punk “and also you comprehend it.”

Punk paused and smiled. “There’s some fact to what you simply mentioned,” he mentioned. “Little bit, scared after coming again after seven years.” He mentioned he wouldn’t misinform the lovers. He mentioned he didn’t know if the folks would be mindful him or care. He mentioned didn’t know if he nonetheless had it. He mentioned he isn’t scared anymore, and he’s no longer terrified of him evidently. He mentioned he used to be promoting out MSG when MJF used to be on Rosie O’Donnell. He mentioned the ultimate time he did a music and dance, he made the New York Occasions. He requested if Maxwell sought after to sing him a music. He mentioned he’s status within the ring with a qualified, so the following time he makes the New York Occasions, it’ll be the obituaries. He mentioned he simply enrolled in a faculty his folks can’t manage to pay for.

He mentioned he talks an excessive amount of, similar to him again within the day “aside from I all the time sponsored it, and you’ll’t again up shit with out your back-up.” He mentioned Shawn Spears, FTR, and Wardlow is how he will get issues achieved. He mentioned he by no means discussed him on interviews as a result of he by no means needed to. He mentioned he sought after to check himself in AEW, so he went after the center and soul of AEW. He mentioned it eats him up that he began with Darby. He mentioned he’s too busy speaking about being probably the most robust of the 4 pillars, “you don’t even understand you’ve been changed by means of Britt Baker.”

Punk mentioned MJF thinks he’s made just right issues, however he talks an excessive amount of and he’s wasted the folks’s time. He mentioned they name Chicago the second one town no longer as it’s 2nd very best or as a result of there’s a town that used to be first, they name them the second one town as a result of when it burned to the bottom, they constructed on most sensible of the smoldering embers. He mentioned the one approach MJF shall be no. 1, it’ll be in the event that they wait round for Tony to have a daughter that he marries. He mentioned the ultimate time they have been in Chicago, he gave everyone unfastened ice cream bars. He mentioned the one factor that may be a greater welcome again present “can be punching you to your little needle dick presently.” MJF took off his jacket and seemed in a position to combat, then he dropped to the bottom and rolled out of the hoop. Enthusiasts booed.

Ross mentioned, “Wow. That’s some severe professional wrestling TV, I’ll inform you.” Excalibur mentioned MJF confirmed his true colours, however Punk would strive against subsequent.

(Keller’s Research: Stellar. Unbelievable. Epic. MJF used to be so just right, I felt Punk used to be going to wilt out of rustiness and a loss of subject matter to fireside again with. He disarmed that by means of admitting MJF made some correct issues, then flipped it over on MJF with the mythical Miz comparability, and the dig on the finish evaluating MJF to Triple H. That used to be some of the very best speaking segments on professional wrestling TV in a few years.) [c]

(1) C.M. PUNK vs. Q.T. MARSHALL (w/Nick Comoroto, Aaron Solow)

The bell rang 25 mins into the hour. Has AEW ever rung a bell to start out a primary fit later, and boy did they pick out the fitting speaking phase to kick off a display and provides that a lot time to. The announcers mirrored at the MJF-Punk phase. Marshall took over a minute in with a knee to the ribs. Schiavone famous Marshall gained 22 out of 25 fits previous this 12 months. Excalibur mentioned he did it maximum incessantly with lend a hand from Solow and Comoroto. Punk got here again and fixed Marshall within the nook and punched him ten occasions. Marshall did the turn stumble upon the nook turnbuckle within the nook. Ross mentioned persons are overanalyzing Punk’s fits since he returned. He introduced up the Roman Reigns critique that he’s no longer as “explosive” as he as soon as used to be and he’s no longer plowing thru warring parties as temporarily as he did when he used to be more youthful. Ross mentioned he additionally occurs to be undefeated, so it doesn’t topic. Schiavone mentioned he has to adapt. Punk leaped off the hoop apron with a clothesline on Marshall at ringside. They minimize to a split-screen smash. [c/ss]

Marshall took over and level-headed Punk right through the smash. Punk got here again and landed a most sensible rope elbow. He signaled for the GTS after which delivered.

WINNER: Punk in 11:00.

(Keller’s Research: Marshall used to be a just right opponent for Punk on this state of affairs. Punk seemed just right there and simply turns out to have a little bit extra self belief as he wrestles now than he did to start with. He’s beginning to stroll across the ring with a presence that claims he owns the hoop once more relatively than simply visiting a spot from the previous. I’m curious how intentional it used to be that Ross drew consideration to the “explosiveness” critique of Reigns and the duration of Punk’s fits. AEW tends to have fits move longer than we’re used to when most sensible tier wrestlers face 2nd and 3rd tier wrestlers, and this suits that trend, however having Punk win decisively and extra temporarily gave the impression known as for right here.)

-Schiavone interviewed Christian Cage, Jungle Boy, and Luchasaurus. JB bragged that he’s beat Bobby Fish two times. Christian mentioned they’ve a ton of momentum, and now they’ve self belief and really feel rattling close to unbeatable. He mentioned Luchasaurus & JB at the moment are the no. 1 ranked tag crew in AEW. He mentioned he’s going to ensure they win the tag crew titles. [c]

-Behind the scenes, a roving digital camera approached Eddie Kingston as he used to be consuming cake at a desk. He wanted Jon Moxley a Glad Thanksgiving. 2-point-0 and Danny Garcia walked as much as him and mentioned studying his article within the Avid gamers’ Tribune. Matt Lee congratulated him on his achievements, however mentioned he’s no longer hungry anymore. Jeff Parker instructed him they’re there for him although he couldn’t be there for his buddy Moxley. Kingston requested what he simply mentioned to him. Garcia threw his scorching espresso in Kingston’s face. Safety ran in to split them. “The place is Tony Garea when you wish to have him?” requested Ross.

(2) COLTON & BILLY GUNN (w/Austin Gunn) vs. BEAR COUNTRY (Undergo Boulder & Undergo Bronson)

The Gunn Membership got here out first as a break up display screen video aired of the fallout after the Billy Gunn vs. Darby fit on Rampage ultimate Friday involving Sting. Gunn Membership attacked Undergo Nation prior to the bell from at the back of. Undergo Nation disregarded the assault. Excalibur famous that Undergo Nation at 10-2 and Gunn Membership ate 8-0. Colton despatched Boulder not easy into the ringside steps. He offered an arm harm in a while. Schiavone mentioned he had surgical procedure on that arm. Again within the ring, Colt and Bronson battled. Austin tripped Bronson from ringside. Colton then gave Bronson a Colt 54 for the win. Ross mentioned it used to be a blank victory and “no longer mired in controversy.” I don’t suppose he used to be being sarcastic, I feel he simply ignored the Austin leg travel proper prior to the pin.

WINNERS: Gunn Membership in 3:00.

-Sting got here out in a while. Austin charged at him. Sting held his flooring and smiled as Darby flew out of nowhere with a flying take on. Darby’s song performed as he stared down on the Gunn Membership from the hoop.

(Keller’s Research: Colton and Austin were appearing glimpses just right in-ring paintings and development in recent times on Darkish, particularly taking great bumps, and Austin’s bump for Darby used to be nice there. They’re the kind of heels that lovers wish to see common babyfaces wade through, and it is a just right approach to give Darby a delightful decisive win after arising quick in opposition to MJF, who has moved up the cardboard in opposition to Punk. It additionally sends the message that winners transfer up and losers regroup in opposition to lesser warring parties. I just like the reserving good judgment to this.)

-A business aired for Struggle of the Belts coming to TNT on Jan. 8. in Charlotte, N.C. Tickets move on sale on Saturday.

-Behind the scenes Brandon Cutler filmed Adam Cole and Bobby Fish speaking about how a lot those previous few weeks have sucked. He mentioned shedding fits in recent times and “this silly Friendsgiving factor.” He instructed Fish they’re greater than companions, they’re very best buddies, almost circle of relatives. Then Orange Cassidy, Chuck Taylor, and Wheeler Yuta walked as much as them. Chuck mentioned they’re actually known as Absolute best Buddies. Cole mentioned he is aware of Cassidy is a terrible buddy and Yuta has no buddies. Cole mentioned there’s no approach that Cassidy & Yuta are higher buddies that he and Fish are. Fish requested Cassidy what Yuta’s heart identify is. They walked as much as Cole and Fish. Cole mentioned he’d lead them to pay.

(Keller’s Research: This seems to be to be putting in a tag fit for Rampage. The tone of who’re higher buddies feels, a minimum of in tone, just a little like one thing Cole would do on “Being the Elite.” Cole can step up and be a major major match act when it’s time simply nice, even supposing this feels just a little underneath him in this day and age.)

-Excalibur plugged Jamie Hayter vs. Thunder Rosa used to be up subsequent. [c]

-They went to a freelance signing phase with Crew Taz on one aspect and Dante Martin and Lio Rush at the different. Taz didn’t like that Rush had a replica of the settlement and used to be even within the room. Rush mentioned anything else that has to do with Dante has to do with him. Taz mentioned that is simply trade. He instructed Dante to signal it. Rush mentioned that’s trade he doesn’t need any a part of. He attempted handy the pen again Taz, however Dante stopped him and signed the contract as Rush requested, “What you’re doing?” Dante then ate a chip out of Hook’s bag when Hook presented. He leaped over the desk and left with Crew Taz.

(Keller’s Research: Dante turns out so great, it’ll be fascinating how he does with Crew Taz seeking to be a heel. There’s a possibility his babyface character is bland or muted, however he has cocky jerk simply ready to return out. If no longer, he can nonetheless prevail by means of having Taz do his speaking, however he’s so impressive within the ring, he’ll have to regulate his taste to get booed. It’s additionally conceivable he’s a double agent and Rush is in on it.)

-A soundbite aired with Britt Baker, Rise up, and Jamie Hayter.

(3) JAMIE HAYTER vs. THUNDER ROSA – TBS Match Quarter Finals

Ross mentioned he loves Rosa’s fireplace and grit. Schiavone mentioned Hayter has that too. Hayter threw Rosa to ringside, however Rosa reverse-whipped her into the barricade.


Rosa managed the motion for some time till Hayter stuck her jumping off the hoop apron. She slammed Rosa into the ringpost back-first. They minimize to a split-screen smash. [c/ss]

Again from the smash, Hayter used to be nonetheless in regulate as a dueling chant used to be loudly ringing right through the sector for each wrestlers. Rosa carried out a Peruvian Necktie submission. As Rise up distracted the ref, Baker pulled Rosa off of Hayter. Hayter held Rosa as Baker threw a sidekick, however Rosa moved. She then shoved Baker into Rise up. Rosa then completed Hayter with a roll-up.

WINNER: Rosa in 10:00 to advance to the semi-finals.

-Alex Marvez interviewed Chris Jericho behind the curtain. Marvez requested what’s subsequent for him. He instructed Marvez that they’ve had a large number of problems, however it’s Thanksgiving Eve. In walked 2-point-0 and Garcia interrupting. Jericho known as them jackasses and instructed them to shop for some chains and nails to offer protection to them from when Kingston breaks into their homes and beats their turkey asses. He then instructed Jeff Parker that he can’t lend a hand however understand he has a sq. head. “You appear to be an unpleasant Spongebob Squarepants.” Jericho instructed him that he’s no longer going to throw espresso in his face in the event that they interrupt him once more, they’re going to knock his frickin’ tooth down his throat. “You dig?” he mentioned. Jeff sponsored away. Matt, regardless that, mentioned, “With all due recognize, watch your mouth.” Jericho then wanted Marvez a Glad Thanksgiving. He mentioned Jeff’s head is sort of a Rubik’s Dice. [c]

-Tony Schiavone sat behind the curtain at a desk stuffed with meals with Britt Baker and Rise up. Britt mentioned issues didn’t move as she anticipated within the earlier fit. She instructed Tony he doesn’t want that pie and he or she instructed Rise up she doesn’t want that dinner roll. She mentioned something could be very brilliant with all that has long gone fallacious, and that’s that she continues to be the AEW Global Champion. Schiavone mentioned he loves them each, however he has unhealthy information for them. He went to video pictures of ways Riho wasn’t eradicated at All Out right through the On line casino Struggle Royale, so due to this fact Tony Khan has signed Baker to stand Riho on Rampage this Friday, and if Riho wins, she’ll get a long term name fit. Baker instructed Schiavone he ruined Halloween and Thanksgiving, so he’s no longer invited to the Christmas birthday party. She complained about ice in her pink wine.

(4) COLT CABANA (w/Darkish Order) vs. BRYAN DANIELSON

Colt made his front first. Then Danielson got here out, hands prolonged. After an early trade, Colt grabbed the ground rope for a smash. Danielson broke, however kicked Colt prior to strolling away in additional an insult than a approach to motive any ache. Excalibur mentioned their historical past in opposition to every different, noting that they wrestled 5 occasions together with a 60 minute draw and 4 wins for Danielson in a different way. Colt blocked a most sensible rope again suplex and elbowed Danielson to the mat. He then landed a most sensible rope moonsault for a two depend. Colt elbowed Danielson within the head two times. Danielson swept Colt after which hung on and stomped his head ten occasions prior to twisting Colt right into a hammer lock. He flexed his hands and carried out a LeBell lock. Danielson pointed at what seemed to be a teeth at the mat that he used to be indicating he stomped out of Colt’s mouth. Schiavone mentioned he can be interviewing Danielson.

WINNER: Danielson in 5:00. [c/ss]

-Right through the split-screen smash, Colt checked his mouth for a lacking teeth as Danielson gloated.

-Schiavone instructed Danielson that he’s no longer making many buddies. Danielson mentioned it’s humorous that once he debuted in Chicago, he were given a significantly better response than this. “I’m wondering, is it me or is it you?” he mentioned. He mentioned he has one phrase to explain that – and that’s fickle.” He mentioned he’s no longer fickle. He mentioned he kicked in Colt’s head and kicked his tooth out. He confirmed off the teeth. He then mentioned there are a pair Darkish Order participants from Atlanta and he would fortunately kick their heads in subsequent week. He mentioned this is resulting in without equal head kicking for Hangman. Hangman Web page’s song performed and he walked out as pyro blasted.

Hangman walked out with the belt over his left shoulder and the mic in his proper hand. (There used to be a “Head of the Desk” t-shirt within the background. I will’t be mindful seeing a WWE t-shirt on digital camera right through an AEW display till now.) Hangman mentioned he’d be at liberty to shield his name in opposition to Danielson proper right here, presently. Danielson mentioned he’d after all say that once he already wrestled a fit. “To me, that’s now Cowboy Shit, that’s coward shit,” he mentioned. Hangman mentioned he’s no longer leaving Chicago with no combat. He set the belt down and mentioned he’d give Danielson the primary shot since he simply had a fit. Ross questioned how good that used to be. Danielson mentioned that used to be an insult, then he slapped him. Hangman fought again. Danielson tossed Hangman to the hoop apron, however Hangman got here proper again with a Buckshot Lariat strive. Danielson bailed out of the hoop.

-Excalibur plugged Cole & Fish vs. Cassidy & Yuta, Baker vs. Soho, and Garcia vs. Kingston for Friday. Ross hyped Soho vs. Kris Statlander for subsequent week’s Dynamite. A vignette aired hyping the Statlander vs. Soho fit. Excalibur mentioned Tony Khan would announce further Dynamite fits on Rampage on Friday. In addition they plugged the price ticket gross sales release for Struggle of the Belts this Saturday once more.

-Malakai Black’s ring front happened. Then FTR got here out. Dax Harwood reached to slap a child’s hand who used to be attaining out to him, however he stored his hand simply out of achieve after which laughed at him. Andrade got here out 3rd with Jose the Assistant. [c]

(5) CODY RHODES (w/Arn Anderson) & DEATH TRIANGLE (Pac & Lucha Bros. w/Alex Abrahantes) vs. MALAKAI BLACK & ANDRADE EL IDOLO (w/Jose) & FTR (w/Tully Blanchard)

Loss of life Triangle’s ring front aired first. Then Cody got here out to an eruption of boos. Cody started in opposition to Dax. Cody made the error of enjoying to the gang and he were given extra boos prior to locking up with Dax. Cody took regulate and had Dax down, so he took off his weight lifter’s belt and tossed it to the lovers. Pac tagged in subsequent. Then a fan threw the load lifting belt again into the hoop for most likely the most important pop of the night time. Deficient Cody needed to stand at the ring apron and take in that second. Andrade grabbed it and threw it underneath the hoop. A safety employee tossed Cody’s weight lifter’s belt again at him. Cody put it again on. (What have been they pondering there, drawing extra consideration to that second?) Pac tagged in Penta who leaped off the highest rope with a dropkick to Money’s butt and thighs.

Cody tagged himself in in opposition to Andrade and were given booed. Excalibur mentioned it backfired in opposition to Rhodes. Chaos broke out and Cody lunged and tagged in Rey Fenix. Fenix hit some fast offense in opposition to Black and Andrade to cheers. Tully stopped Fenix from working the ropes, giving Black a possibility to take over. They minimize to a split-screen smash. [c/ss]

Again from the smash, Penta rallied. He scored a two depend on Andrade after a backstabber. Pac flip-dove onto Andrade and Dax at ringside. Again within the ring, Money interfered and gave Pac a backbreaker. Chaos broke out, together with Dax hitting a piledriver on Penta. Black stuck Fenix with a knee to the jaw. Cody entered and gave Black a Crossroads prior to throwing off his weight lifter’s belt once more, this time without work digital camera to the fitting of the TV display screen view. Enthusiasts booed. Cody then mistakenly kicked Pac when Andrade sidestepped it. Pac stuck a charging Andrade with an overhead suplex into the nook. Tully entered the hoop. Arn stepped into the hoop. Enthusiasts cheered as they turned around every different. Schiavone mentioned it brings again some Thanksgiving reminiscences. Enthusiasts chanted “Holy shit!” Jose then entered the hoop and grabbed his crotch. Arn tossed him down. Enthusiasts cheered. Jose ran away and Alex helped him. FTR joined Tully to nook Arn. Fenix leaped onto FTR as Arn and Tully left the hoop. Fenix and Penta clotheslined FTR excessive rope to the ground. Then Penta landed a turn dive onto Money. Fenix landed a jump off the highest rope onto Dax. Black then sprayed Black Mist at Pac. Andrade then completed Pac with a DDT for the win.

WINNERS: Andrade & FTR & Black in 16:00.

(Keller’s Research: A laugh fit with a ton of motion. The lovers in Chicago reacting to the previous Horsemen and Brainbusters squaring off used to be cool. However the speaking level goes to be Cody and the load lifting belt. I will handiest believe what’s happening in his head. That used to be embarrassing.)

FINAL THOUGHTS: Actually just right display, anchored by means of that stellar opening phase. Danielson is a blast as a heel, and the historical past of the Colt fit made a pedestrian fit within the AEW universe appear to be a tip of the hat to their historical past that added which means to the fit. It used to be just right to get Hangman available in the market once more this week to face reverse of Danielson. That phase used to be neatly booked. Rosa vs. Hayter used to be just right, too.

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